Maria Korolov: Anjo da Guarda

23:42	Tartafeu	cool!
23:42	Tartafeu	I am from management are
23:42	Tartafeu	And I am doing my strictu sensu in Education area
23:42	Maria	i write about brazil stock exchanges sometimes. I'm a business journalist.
23:42	Maria	bovespa, right?
23:43	Tartafeu	I am trying to discover an interesting use from virtual worlds ...
23:43	Tartafeu	yes!
23:43	Tartafeu	I am a professor in an School
23:43	Maria	right now, biggest uses are for classes, for small business meetings, for architects to show houses and buildigns to clients, and for city planning to design cities
23:44	Tartafeu	I am thinkin to create an environment where students could to live an experience about management history
23:44	Tartafeu	But I would to domain the delopment of objects
23:44	Maria	on SecondLIfe, students run virtual shops... to see how they can buy and sell things -- for real money
23:45	Maria	small amounts of money, but real money
23:45	Tartafeu	What is used to do that: blender? C++?
23:45	Maria	they have to do marketing, manage inventory, pay vendors, etc...
23:45	Maria	they don't need anything. it's prt of second life.
23:45	Maria	you just have to rent some space there
23:45	Maria	you can do that on OpenSim, too, using V$ for your payments...
23:45	Maria	or using PayPal micropayments
23:46	Maria	or you can create your own virtual currency, just for the class, and use it in the store
23:46	Maria	they also had cookie factories in Second Life, and a Ben & Jerry's ice cream factory, for business students
23:46	Tartafeu	OpenSim as fewer "capitalist" than SL or is a wrong impression mine?
23:46	Maria	and the Fashion Institute is running a big training session for fasion students in second life
23:47	Tartafeu	You know a lot about that
23:47	Maria	tart: SecondLife is proprietary code. OpenSim is open source
23:47	Maria	but the Apache web server is open source -- and many people use it to build e-commerce websites
23:47	Maria	the same way, you can use OpenSim to create virtual stores
23:47	Maria	or virtual factories, or anything else
23:47	Tartafeu	yes!
23:48	Maria	so you can use Microsoft Server's paid software to build your e-commerce site, or the Apache open source server software to build your e-commerce site
23:48	Maria	the end result looks the same
23:48	Maria	or you can use both to create a non-profit site
23:48	Maria	there are many non-profits in second life
23:48	Tartafeu	I think at first step I will need to learn how to program
23:49	Maria	you don't need ANY programming skills to do this
23:49	Tartafeu	in virtual worlds
23:49	Maria	you can set up a store in a few days with point-and-clicks
23:49	Tartafeu	doesnt?
23:49	Maria	no programming at all
23:49	Tartafeu	But to create scripts
23:49	Maria	if you take v$ all the payments are handled for you
23:49	Maria	well, what do you want to sell in the store?
23:49	Tartafeu	I would like, for example
23:50	Tartafeu	to create a manufacturing line where the students could
23:50	Tartafeu	interact
23:50	Maria	interact ow?
23:50	Tartafeu	Now a days. When I am explaining about
23:50	Maria	picking things up and putting things down?
23:50	Tartafeu	Taylor
23:50	Tartafeu	i.e.
23:50	Tartafeu	They can only imagining and see pictures or movies
23:50	Maria	if teh students make objects and pass them down the line, they can do taht now with no programming at all
23:51	Tartafeu	I will explain better
23:51	Maria	for example, one student can make a box
23:51	Tartafeu	Or try :)
23:51	Maria	the second student can shape it into the right shape
23:51	Maria	the enxt student can put a picture on the outside to make it look right
23:51	Maria	the next student can attach a handle
23:51	Maria	the last student can put it in a box
23:51	Maria	all these steps have no programming in them
23:51	Tartafeu	But if I intent to create this environment wouldnt I now to program the objects?
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23:52	Maria	it's built into SecondLife and OpenSim
23:52	Tartafeu	How can I do that?
23:52	Maria	no, the studets would actually be building real objects as they go along
23:52	Maria	no programming needed
23:52	Maria	where are you now? i'll show you
23:52	Tartafeu	Maria, how could I now more about it?
23:52	Maria	wherea re you? reaction grid or osgrid?
23:53	Tartafeu	just a moment
23:53	Tartafeu	:)
23:53	Tartafeu	wright plaza
23:53	Tartafeu	126.128.22
23:53		--- WhiteStar is back
23:53	WhiteStar	Tartafeu:;; Here is our Scripting Forum
23:54	WhiteStar	http://osgrid.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5
23:54	Tartafeu	Thank you
23:54	Maria	tart: hmm... where's the closest workign sandbox?
23:54	Tartafeu	a lot! :)
23:54	Maria	probably sandbox plaza, right?
23:54	WhiteStar	HHere is teh LSL Wiki dor teh Scripting Languiage commonly used in SL and OpenSim
23:54	WhiteStar	http://lslwiki.net/lslwiki/wakka.php?wakka=HomePage
23:54	Tartafeu	Excuse me but you are an angel on my way :)
23:55	Tartafeu	I was totaly loose
23:55	Maria	tart: go to map (bottom right) then type "Sandbox" into the search box
23:55	Maria	i'll join you there
23:55	Tartafeu	ok
23:55	Maria	double-click on sandbox plaza or select it and hit "teleport"
23:55	WhiteStar	Here is a List (almost up to date) of teh Scripting Functions that do work in OpenSim
23:55	WhiteStar	http://opensimulator.org/wiki/LSL_Status
23:55	Maria	also, you need some male shapes and clothes, right?
23:56	Maria	i've got some i can give you
23:56	Tartafeu	Can I import Second life's avatar appearence? I would like to change the shape of my avatar...
23:56	Maria	ok, i'm here
23:56	Maria	tart: there is supposedly a way but i haven't found it yet...
23:56	Tartafeu	ok
23:56	Maria	are you here yet?
23:57	Tartafeu	Problems to teleport to sandbox... :(
23:57	Tartafeu	I will try again
23:57	WhiteStar	HEre is teh Mermaid Diaries. There are MANY tutorials on making just about anything you can imagine in SecondLife, it also applies here.
23:57	WhiteStar	http://www.mermaiddiaries.com/
23:57	Maria	try typing in SANDBOX PLAZA
23:57	Tartafeu	Snbox or sandbox island?
23:57	Tartafeu	ok
23:57	Tartafeu	going
23:57	Maria	PLAZA
23:57	Tartafeu	just arrived
23:58	WhiteStar	Tartafeu... Save those links in your Browser for Future Reference
23:59	WhiteStar	They will help you to better understand the Basics
23:59	WhiteStar	Most of teh matrerial used in SecondLife can be used in OpenSim environments
23:59	WhiteStar	We do have a number of more advanced features and functions which are not availabel in SL
00:00	WhiteStar	Good Luck and Have Fun
00:00	Tartafeu	Thats good new!
00:00	Tartafeu	My sincerelly regards about your help and your care!
00:02	Tartafeu	And I will visit the URLs
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